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I just got a follow up email from Representative George Till

 

Hi Michael,
Forgive the generic email but I’ve received so many on the subject of the sign that it’s impossible to write a separate message to each.

george

Thank you for your email about  the Clark?s Truck Stop sign.

According to the testimony before the House Committee on Transportation on 2/24 by John LaBarge, there are several issues with the sign.  First by state law the sign can display temperature and time.  This display may change at any time interval.  The sign may not otherwise appear to be flashing, intermittent or moving.  The statute does not further define what this means.  In 1977 the Attorney General issued an opinion about what it means to be intermittent, flashing or moving which the TIC continues to follow 34 years later.  No new opinion has been sought from the Attorney General. That opinion, 34 years ago said a change less than every 15 minutes would likely not be seen as intermittent, flashing or moving.   Therefore, according to the TIC, that information which is allowed to be displayed (other than time and temperature) should not change more quickly than every 15 minutes. Nothing I read in the A.G. opinion says that any change more frequent than 15 minutes would be flashing or intermittent only that less than 15 minutes would be safe.

Next is the issue of what may be displayed besides time and temperature.   According to the TIC, the statute lists the types of messages that can be displayed.   The TIC can find no category under which birthdays and anniversaries fall.  They therefore decide that unless Clark?s Truck Stop is having an anniversary or birthday party on the premises at that time, these types of messages can not be displayed at all.    It is clear that messages about civic events like fund raisers, church or school dinners, events like Harvest Market,  JUFD Labor Day barbeque ect. may be displayed, but these  are subject to the timing rules.

The size of the sign is well within the legal limits.  There is no evidence of increased rate of accidents at the intersection in the two years the new sign has been there.  The Jericho Select Board has endorsed the sign and it complies with Jericho?s zoning regulations.

So what happens from here?  The TIC is not scheduled to meet until 3 months from now. In the mean time the House Committee on Transportation will consider whether the law should be updated and what changes should be made.  The Committee seemed very interested in finding an acceptable solution.  Should the Legislature not act, then at their next meeting the TIC could request the Attorney General to begin court proceedings.  This could result in a fine each subsequent day that the sign is not in compliance.  It could also result in the AOT removing the sign.  Both of these things seem extremely unlikely and any action would take several months.  By then it will be summer and we could have a daily picnic on the premises and advertise it on the sign.

George Till
2/26/2011

 

Seems odd to me that the issue of how a sign is used in a relativly small town could become the second most commented on story on the Burlington Free Press web site.

 

For the record – I do not personally support publicizing the name and address of the one person that filed a complaint about this sign. Since it was publicized though I now must confess that I’m even more troubled to learn the source of the complaint is essentially my neighbor. More specifically our properties border each other although we live on different roads.

 

MONTPELIER — Birthday and anniversary wishes are out, but Randy Clark can post messages for civic, religious and philanthropic causes on the electronic sign outside his Jericho business, the Vermont Travel Information Council ruled Thursday.

The council voted unanimously to send a notice to Clark’s Truck Center ordering it to comply with state law or face possible removal of the sign. Instead of having messages on the electronic board change every minute or two, the council also mandated Clark leave the same message up for at least 15 minutes with a pause of 30 to 60 seconds before changing it.

Clark, who noted he received 300 to 400 messages of support since the Burlington Free Press reported on the issue Monday, said Thursday that he will comply. He said he refuses to pay a lawyer to fight the state. Although the council said the Legislature could settle the issue, Clark responded that he was like other Vermonters who believe setting foot in the Statehouse is too intimidating a process.

Later at Clark’s, the sign flip-flopped between “We lost” and “Call whoever, but don’t call us.”

“I’ve got to get back to work,” said Clark, a seventh-generation Vermonter. “I was disappointed but not surprised. I knew they would not do anything.” He said he hopes some travel council members will read the messages and laws he included in a three-ring binder for each of them.

At issue is a 3 foot-by-10-foot message board that is part of the truck company’s business sign and is visible near Vermont 15 and Browns Trace Road. The council said the issue arose after a resident, Cheryl French, filed a complaint in February 2010.

A man who answered the phone Thursday night at French’s Jericho home said she was unavailable for comment.

Clark’s has been used to announce road closings, church dinners, school events and other messages, including birthday, anniversary and other personal greetings. Clark has raised about $8,000 for local charitable causes by accepting donations from people who want to see somebody’s name in lights to commemorate a celebration. He said about two-thirds follow through by sending a check.

The council is relying on a 1977 opinion by then-Attorney General M. Jerome Diamond that proposed the 15-minute requirement. The opinion said when the Vermont anti-billboard law was enacted, the Legislature probably did not envision modern signs.

“It is virtually impossible to guess what the legislature might have said had it been confronted with the possibility that a sign message could be changed instantly without the use of moving parts or a manual lettering system,” the 1977 letter said.

The state’s failure to keep up to date with sign technology is one reason the House Transportation Committee late Thursday afternoon agreed to learn more about the issue, said Chairman Rep. Patrick Brennan, R-Colchester.

Brennan said his committee received an introductory briefing about the Travel Information Council and asked the council to give the Legislature a chance at updating the law or finding a solution.

The Travel Information Council also heard from Tim Nulty, chairman of the Jericho Selectboard, which he said supports the sign. He said local regulations say birthday and anniversary wishes and community events are welcome. He said the town has blocked Clark from using the message board to promote truck sales or discounts.

Also speaking on Clark’s behalf were three local residents: Leslie Martin, Frank Popeleski and Doug Richmond.

Clark started his presentation by apologizing to John LaBarge, a Transpiration Agency official and Travel Information Council member, for the heat he has felt from taxpayers. LaBarge, a former Republican legislator from Grand Isle County, signed the letter ordering the sign down.

LaBarge later apologized for his conduct at Thursday’s hearing after Richmond criticized him for behavior he termed interrupting, scolding and strong-arming. LaBarge said the matter had become personal with threatening phone calls to him.

I’ve never heard of the Digital Journal, but they have now heard of Jericho!

Vt. truck dealership told to stop promoting local charities

In what seems to be a case of state regulators run amok, the owner of a Jericho, Vt., truck dealership has been told he can no longer use his business sign to promote local charities or announce local events.

In an article in today’s Burlington Free Press, Randy H. Clark, owner of Clark’s Truck Center, said he has been told that he must restrict the messages on his digital sign to information related to his business, such as sales and special offers. The current sign was put up in 2009 after an older time and temperature sign stopped working. With the new sign, he has posted messages about blood drives, church suppers, and various fundraising events. It has also been used for safety messages and road closings. The state Transportation Agency sees things differently. Using a 1977 legal opinion, that board believes Clark is violating state law by promoting events taking place off premises. John LaBarge, who represents the agency on the Vermont Travel Information Council, said that Clark’s business is the only one not in compliance with the law, and the agency will consider legal action against him if he does not comply. For his part, Clark said he has offered compromises but that the agency is apparently not interested. He said further that he was visited by an assistant attorney general, who would speak with him about the matter only if he did not have a lawyer. Clark said he does not charge for the use of his sign, but that he encourages people to make donations to the “Clark Community Fund.” A webpage gives the fund’s history and explains its purpose. Last year, proceeds from the sign helped raise $4,269 for the local cemetery association to help pay for tree removal and last month $3,222 was raised for a couple that lost many of their possessions in a fire. A local school recognized Clark for supporting events at the school. Complicating matters is a letter Clark received last week from Town Planner Seth Jensen, asserting that the sign should not be used for announcing items for sale, but for announcing “events hosted by local organizations.”

WCAX did a story last night about the sign at Clark’s Truck center. As is the norm for most TV news, they did a pretty poor job of explaining the details of the “controversy”. I’m happy they covered it but come on, is that hard to get the back story?

This would be one reason I seldom WCAX newscasts.

Anoter fun fact; as of my reading there were three viewer comments posted. One of which reads,

It should come down. Most people do not like it and the lights are so bright that it is sometimes blinding. I’m surprised it has not caused an accident yet. It is a hazard not a help.

Today, 10:45:37
Interesting comment with no facts to back it up. On the BFP site there are nearly 200 comments, on my last read, with the majority supporting the Clark’s. This also appears to be a higher than normal rate of responses to an article.

Wow! Front page of the Burlington Free Press. Very exciting. The BFP was the very first media outlet to reply to my requests to look into this matter. Apparently the news department at the BFP has a leg up on the Circulation department (Over the past year or so I have more problems with delivery of my morning paper than I care to recount).

Since my original posting I have now had responses from WCAX, WPTZ and the BFP. Let’s see if the TV news people jump on board. I’ve also had responses from Representative George Till and Senator Tim Ashe – not sure yet what they plan to do, but both indicated they would look into it.

from Burlington Free Press, Glenn Russell

JERICHO — The state of Vermont has ordered a Jericho truck dealership to stop using its commercial sign to promote charitable causes in the region.

Clark’s Truck Center, on Vermont 15 and Orr Road in Jericho, has used its 3-by-10-foot message sign to alert the community about blood drives, church suppers, the Labor Day parade, community barbecues and fundraisers, along with birthdays and other celebrations. Jericho town officials say that’s just what the sign should be used for.

John LaBarge of the Vermont Transportation Agency said Monday the sign violates state law by promoting events that are off premises. Announcements need to be limited to the business.

LaBarge, the agency’s representative to the state Travel Information Council, said the council will consider legal action at its meeting Thursday in Montpelier if the owner, Randy H. Clark, refuses to comply with the law.

Clark’s either must remove the sign or limit it to the provisions of state law, LaBarge said.
“We have had quite a few digital signs, and everyone has come into compliance. He is the
only one not to come into compliance,” said LaBarge, a former state legislator from Grand
Isle County.

Clark said he has been told state law allows him to advertise “truck sales” or “batteries 20
percent off,” but not events unrelated to his business. Clark said the Transportation Agency is relying on a September 1977 opinion from then-Attorney General M. Jerome Diamond. The opinion states digital signs should remain constant for 15 minutes and have a 30 to 60 second pause before changing.

Clark said a lot has changed in the past 34 years, and he hopes the state is willing to revisit
the guidelines. The sign also has been used for safety messages and road closings, said Clark, a former
longtime chief with the Underhill-Jericho Volunteer Fire Department.

The state law also appears to be at odds with Jericho land use and development regulations. Town Planner Seth Jensen, in a Feb. 14 letter to Clark, wrote that the sign should not be used to advertise items for sale, and instead should “announce events hosted by local organizations, public meetings, fund raisers for nonprofit organizations, or similar displays. Displays containing holiday messages or birthday messages would be considered ‘non-commercial’ in nature,” Jensen wrote.

Clark said he has offered compromises, but the state has appeared inflexible. Clark said he received a visit Jan. 20 from an assistant attorney general interested in talking with him only if he was not represented by a lawyer. Clark said after the discussion, he decided he would attend the next meeting of the Travel Information Council and planned only to listen and educate himself about what the council does. Clark said he was shocked later to receive an agenda for this week’s meeting that listed possible legal action against his business.

“I’m guess I’m going to have to say something,” said Clark, who refuses to hire a lawyer. “I will not pay somebody to fight this case,” Clark said. “I guess if we have to, we will shut off the sign and stop raising money for charity.”

Clark said as people learn about his sign dilemma, he has received strong support from the community. He hopes to show some of those letters to the council.

Here’s how it works: Some local residents want to have a community event, a happy birthday or an anniversary noted on the sign. Although no fee is charged, users are urged to donate to “Clark’s Community Fund,” he said; the money is used for causes in the Underhill-Jericho area.

In the past year, the sign helped raise $4,269 for the North Underhill Cemetery Association, which did not have any money but needed to take two several large dead trees that were likely to topple and destroy historic grave markers. In January, Clark turned over $3,222 to Jim and Sue Carter, whose daughter and son-in-law lost many of their possessions when the Grand Army of the Republic Hall burned in November 2010. When the state recently stepped in, the sign was in the process of raising money for the Fisher family, whose Jericho house was damaged by fire in January. About $600 had been raised.
Clark said any worthy local cause is free to request donations.

Clark said his garage, established in 1927 on Vermont 15 near the Underhill-Jericho town line, was long know for providing information to the community. For many decades, an 18-inch clock, which was lit at night, was available for passing motorists. When the garage relocated in 1986, a mechanical time-and-temperature sign was included. Clark said it wore out after some 114 million flip-flops, and a new light-emitting diode (LED) display was installed in 2009. LaBarge said he believes Clark is charging people to have messages placed on the board. He said that is akin to the owner of a large billboard accepting advertising from a business. Vermont banned billboards in the 1970s as a way to clean up the landscape.

Clark, a seventh generation Vermonter, said he doesn’t charge, just accepts donations, and some people don’t pay. Clark said he does not insist on receiving money before posting a message on his sign.

He said when people stop by to have a sign posted, he encourages them to make a donation for a worthy cause. He said the donations have ranged from $5 to $100, and he estimated the average was probably about $25. All of the money in “Clark’s Community Fund goes toward charitable causes, he said.

He said the Browns River Middle School named Clark’s the business of the year in 2009 because of support for the events at school.

Thank you Donna for taking up the cause -

The following is from the Jericho Front Porch Forum

SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY SIGN
By Donna N.
Mon, 21 February 2011
Post your note to neighbors: jerichocenter@frontporchforum.com

Driving past Clark’s Trucking community sign on Sunday, I wondered what the to-do was and why they needed help to support their sign. FPF didn’t take long to answer my (unasked) question – thanks to Michael Charter!

Here’s the email I sent to my VT legislators in support of the Community messages on the Clark’s Trucking sign:

As a resident, taxpayer and voter from Jericho, please accept my extreme support for the sign at Clark’s Trucking on Rte 15 in Jericho, VT.

The sign provides community spirit, voluntary donations supporting local needs (at no cost to the state budget) and valuable community information.

It is insane for the state of VT to try to STOP this beneficial situation. Please revisit the old and outdated laws instead of ending a positive practice.  -Donna N.

I found my representatives here:

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/legdir/findmember3.cfm?Town=Richmond

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/legdir/LegDirMain.cfm

Go to E-mail Addresses for both House and Senate:
Here are the email addresses:
gtill@leg.state.vt.us,
Rep.georgetill@gmail.com,
Bill@repbillfrank.com,
aobrien@leg.state.vt.us,
tashe@leg.state.vt.us,
timashe@burlingtontelecom.net,
pbaruth@leg.state.vt.us,
sfox@leg.state.vt.us,
senatorsallyfox@gmail.com,
vlyons@leg.state.vt.us,
vvlyons@cs.com,
hmiller@leg.state.vt.us,
dsnelling@leg.state.vt.us

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